House With Tenants

Selling a tenant-occupied house in Shirley

Being a landlord stops being worth it at different points for different people. Sometimes it is one bad tenancy, sometimes it is the third boiler in five years, sometimes it is simply being done.

Whatever got you here, the awkward part is that the thing making you want out is usually the same thing making it hard to sell. We take the property as it is, occupant included.

What we take on when the house comes occupied

Selling with a tenant in place asks a buyer to accept something they cannot fully inspect and cannot fully control. Experience is what makes that acceptable, and we have bought a great many tenanted houses, including multi-family where one tenant was holding up everything.

We work from whatever access you can reasonably give us. We will not ask you to force entry on anybody, and we will not make an unrealistic showing schedule a condition of the offer.

Selling a house with tenants in it in Shirley: spare room packed with bins, buckets and tools
Selling a house with tenants in it in Shirley? We buy occupied houses as-is. Pictured: spare room packed with bins, buckets and tools.

Nobody has to be moved out before we look

You do not have to get the tenant out before you sell. We take the property subject to the existing tenancy and handle the tenant ourselves afterward.

That means no notice to serve, no proceeding to start, and no cash-for-keys offer to fund out of your own pocket. For a landlord who has already been told by three buyers that the house has to be delivered empty, that is usually the whole conversation.

Why local knowledge changes the number

A house on Johns Neck Road. A house on Seymour Drive. Both in Shirley, bought and paid for by us.

Shirley is roughly 26,360 people in Suffolk County, ZIP 11967, and the housing stock is mostly ranch, cape cod, hi-ranch. Around William Floyd Parkway and the Smith Point Bridge, most of it is old enough that the mechanicals are on their second or third life. The Mastic-Shirley stop pulls buyers who commute, which supports the good houses and does very little for the ones that need a roof. We have been buying across Suffolk County for 15+ years. We know what the William Floyd Union Free School District does to a resale price, which blocks still have oil tanks in the ground, and what a house like yours is actually worth here.

Non-paying tenants and holdovers

A tenant who has stopped paying makes a house nearly unsellable on the open market. A buyer with a mortgage cannot get comfortable with it, and their lender gets comfortable even less.

It does not stop us. We price the property for what it is, non-paying tenant included, and we take the arrears situation on ourselves. You do not have to chase the money first to make the house saleable, and you do not have to make them current to make the number real.

Multi-family, and the one difficult unit

On a multi-family, a sale usually dies over one tenant rather than over the building. The other units are fine, the rents are fine, and one of them will not let an appraiser in or has not paid since spring.

We are not going to lose interest over that. Give us the rent roll, tell us which tenant is the problem, and we will price the building as it actually stands rather than as it would stand if everybody behaved.

What the two paths cost in Shirley

These are the two routes open to you with a tenant-occupied house, priced against what Shirley houses actually sell for.

Work it against Shirley's own numbers. The median sale here is $549,990. A 5% commission on that is $27,500, and seller closing costs of about 2% add roughly $11,000. Those are costs we can cover on our side. That is $38,499 gone before anyone counts the repairs it took to get the house listable.

There are two waits in a listed sale and people usually only count the first. In Shirley the median house takes about 43 days to go from listed to a signed contract. Then it waits again, typically 45 to 60 days, while the buyer's lender orders an appraisal and underwrites the loan. Call it 88 to 103 days from sign to keys, assuming nothing goes wrong.

The part worth understanding is what a signed contract actually guarantees, which is less than most sellers assume. A retail buyer with a mortgage contingency can walk away right up to the end. If they do not qualify, if the appraisal comes in under the price, if they change their mind and let the financing lapse. A share of deals die exactly there, after months of waiting, and the house goes back on the market with time on it. We are not borrowing anything, so there is no lender to satisfy, no appraisal to come in low and no contingency to exercise.

 Listing with an agentSelling to us
Sale price$549,990 (Shirley median)Our written offer
Commission−$27,500None
Seller closing costs−$11,000We can cover them
Repairs before listingOut of pocketNone
CleanoutYoursOurs
ShowingsUntil it sellsOne visit
Listed to signed contract43 days (Shirley median, once listable)24 hours to a written offer
Contract to closing45 to 60 days (waiting on the buyer's lender)A date you choose
Total wait88 to 103 days if nothing falls throughYours to set
Can the buyer walk?Yes (mortgage contingency runs to the end)No financing to fall through
Before repairs and carrying$511,491The number we put in writing

The listing column assumes a 5% commission and seller closing costs of about 2%. Both vary. We have not subtracted repairs or the cost of carrying the house while it sits, because those depend on the property. A house in good condition listed with a good agent can absolutely beat a cash offer, and we will say so if that is your situation.

Leases, deposits and the paperwork you actually need

Landlords sometimes delay calling because the tenant paperwork is a mess. A lease that expired years ago, rent taken in cash, somebody who moved a relative in at some point and nobody papered it.

None of that disqualifies the house. Tell us what is true and we build it into the number. The one thing worth being straight about early is anything a court has already been asked to decide about a tenant, because that affects timing and we would rather know at the start than at the closing table.

What you do not pay when you sell a tenant-occupied house

Every line below is a cost of listing a tenant-occupied house the retail way that simply does not arise here.

Agent commission
$27,500 at 5% of the Shirley median
none
Seller closing costs
About $11,000 on a $549,990 sale. We can cover these.
none
Repairs to make it listable
The work it needs to show well, out of your pocket first
none
Cleanout and removal
Paid per load, before a single buyer walks through
none
Carrying costs while it waits
Taxes, insurance and utilities for the 88 to 103 days of finding a buyer and waiting on their mortgage
none

Listing an occupied house, honestly

The honest comparison is not our offer against an asking price. It is our offer against what a tenant-occupied listing actually produces. Showings scheduled around a tenant, a lender's appraiser needing access, a buyer discovering the arrears at the eleventh hour.

Weigh that against one visit, a written number and a closing date you choose. For some Shirley landlords the listing still wins, and we will tell you when we think that is you.

Common questions

Do you need to inspect the tenant-occupied units in Shirley?

We prefer to see them, but we can work from what you are able to show us. We do not expect a landlord to force access on a tenant, and we will not make an unrealistic showing schedule a condition of the offer.

What happens to the security deposits?

Deposits move with the tenancies at closing and the attorneys handle the accounting. If a tenant's deposit was spent or never formally held, say so early and we will work it into the numbers rather than discover it late.

Can you buy if the tenant is already in a court proceeding?

We buy Suffolk County houses with live tenant matters regularly. Tell us what has been filed and where it stands, and your attorney and ours will handle the sequencing between them.

Will the tenants find out the Shirley house is for sale?

There is no sign on the lawn and nothing online, so nothing announces the sale to a tenant. The notice that eventually goes out is about where rent gets paid, and it goes out after closing.

Do I have to give the tenants notice before selling?

What notice a tenancy requires depends on the lease and on state and local rules, so ask your attorney rather than guessing. What we can tell you is that we never ask a seller to end a tenancy as a condition of the sale.

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