Behind on Payments

Behind on mortgage payments on a Shirley house

Two mortgage payments behind or twelve, it is the same conversation, and we have had it many times with Shirley owners.

You will not be asked how it happened. What matters is the payoff figure, what the house is worth, and which options the gap between those two actually leaves open.

Where our experience with mortgage arrears helps you

Being behind on mortgage payments is a problem with three possible answers, and the most useful thing we do is help you work out which one is yours.

Catching the missed mortgage payments up through a modification or forbearance is usually best where it is achievable, and we will put you in front of a HUD-approved housing counselor for it. Selling clears the mortgage and the arrears together and protects whatever equity is left, which is where we come in. Doing nothing is almost always worst. We will give you an honest read on which applies, and we are not paid either way.

Behind on mortgage payments in Shirley: long vinyl ranch with skylights in the roof
Behind on mortgage payments in Shirley? We buy occupied houses as-is. Pictured: long vinyl ranch with skylights in the roof.

Three real options, honestly described

The reason people stall is that all three options feel like admitting something. They are not. People fall behind on mortgage payments for ordinary reasons: a job goes, somebody gets ill, a marriage ends, a business has a bad year.

What matters is only which route the numbers allow. Cure the missed mortgage payments, sell and clear them, or let it run. The third one costs the most, and it is the one that happens by default while people are deciding.

Why local knowledge changes the number

A house on Johns Neck Road. A house on Seymour Drive. Both in Shirley, bought and paid for by us.

Shirley is roughly 26,360 people in Suffolk County, ZIP 11967, and the housing stock is mostly ranch, cape cod, hi-ranch. Around William Floyd Parkway and the Smith Point Bridge, most of it is old enough that the mechanicals are on their second or third life. The Mastic-Shirley stop pulls buyers who commute, which supports the good houses and does very little for the ones that need a roof. We have been buying across Suffolk County for 15+ years. We know what the William Floyd Union Free School District does to a resale price, which blocks still have oil tanks in the ground, and what a house like yours is actually worth here.

Why you need the payoff in writing before anything else

Owners consistently underestimate the payoff, because they are thinking about the principal balance while the mortgage payoff is that balance plus everything the missed payments have piled on top of it.

Ask the servicer for a written payoff quote, good through a date far enough out to be useful. It takes a phone call and you are entitled to it. With that figure and a written offer on a Shirley house in front of you, the decision becomes arithmetic instead of anxiety.

What missed mortgage payments cost you every month they run

Missed mortgage payments do not sit still. Each one adds a late fee, default interest accrues at a higher rate than your note, and once the file reaches the lender's attorneys their costs get added to the payoff as well.

Every one of those comes out of your equity rather than the lender's side of the ledger. A Shirley house sold while the mortgage is a few months behind frequently leaves real money with the seller. The same house sold after the missed mortgage payments have run another year often does not.

What you do not pay when you sell a house in mortgage arrears

Every line below is a cost of listing a house in mortgage arrears the retail way that simply does not arise here.

Agent commission
$27,500 at 5% of the Shirley median
none
Seller closing costs
About $11,000 on a $549,990 sale. We can cover these.
none
Repairs to make it listable
Whatever the house needs, paid up front
none
Cleanout and removal
Charged by the truckload, and done before the first showing
none
Carrying costs while it waits
Taxes, insurance and utilities for the 88 to 103 days of finding a buyer and waiting on their mortgage
none

Selling without the neighbors knowing you are behind on the mortgage

A listing means a sign on the lawn in Shirley and strangers walking through on a Sunday, at exactly the moment you would rather nobody knew about the arrears.

There is none of that with us. We do not list the property, photograph it, or hold an open house. For most owners working through mortgage arrears, that discretion is worth as much as the timeline is.

What the two paths cost in Shirley

These are the two routes open to you with a house in mortgage arrears, priced against what Shirley houses actually sell for.

Work it against Shirley's own numbers. The median sale here is $549,990. A 5% commission on that is $27,500, and seller closing costs of about 2% add roughly $11,000. Those are costs we can cover on our side. That is $38,499 gone before anyone counts the repairs it took to get the house listable.

There are two waits in a listed sale and people usually only count the first. In Shirley the median house takes about 43 days to go from listed to a signed contract. Then it waits again, typically 45 to 60 days, while the buyer's lender orders an appraisal and underwrites the loan. Call it 88 to 103 days from sign to keys, assuming nothing goes wrong.

The part worth understanding is what a signed contract actually guarantees, which is less than most sellers assume. A retail buyer with a mortgage contingency can walk away right up to the end. If they do not qualify, if the appraisal comes in under the price, if they change their mind and let the financing lapse. A share of deals die exactly there, after months of waiting, and the house goes back on the market with time on it. We are not borrowing anything, so there is no lender to satisfy, no appraisal to come in low and no contingency to exercise.

 Listing with an agentSelling to us
Sale price$549,990 (Shirley median)Our written offer
Commission−$27,500None
Seller closing costs−$11,000We can cover them
Repairs before listingOut of pocketNone
CleanoutYoursOurs
ShowingsUntil it sellsOne visit
Listed to signed contract43 days (Shirley median, once listable)24 hours to a written offer
Contract to closing45 to 60 days (waiting on the buyer's lender)A date you choose
Total wait88 to 103 days if nothing falls throughYours to set
Can the buyer walk?Yes (mortgage contingency runs to the end)No financing to fall through
Before repairs and carrying$511,491The number we put in writing

The listing column assumes a 5% commission and seller closing costs of about 2%. Both vary. We have not subtracted repairs or the cost of carrying the house while it sits, because those depend on the property. A house in good condition listed with a good agent can absolutely beat a cash offer, and we will say so if that is your situation.

What happens if the arrears keep running

Mortgage arrears do not become a foreclosure overnight in New York. There are notices first, then a filing, then a long court process, and the whole thing can take a good while.

That length is why people wait, and it is also why waiting costs. Every stage adds to the payoff and the options narrow as it goes. Arrears handled early leave you choosing between three routes. Arrears handled late often leave one, and it is rarely the one you would have picked.

Common questions

How far behind on the mortgage is too far?

We have bought Suffolk County houses from owners a couple of payments behind and from owners whose arrears had been running a long time. What changes is the payoff and how much room is left in it, not whether there is a conversation worth having.

Can you pay off my arrears and let me stay in the house?

That is not what we do. Anyone offering to clear your arrears in exchange for the deed while you stay on as a tenant is offering something you should put in front of an attorney before you sign it. We buy houses outright, and that is the whole of it.

Will selling cover the arrears?

If the house is worth more than the payoff, yes, and the balance is yours. If it is not, you are looking at a short sale, which needs the lender's agreement to take less than it is owed. We can work one of those with you.

Should I keep making partial payments?

Ask a HUD-approved housing counselor or an attorney before you decide, because servicers treat partial payments differently and some hold them in suspense rather than applying them to the arrears. It is worth one call before you send money.

Does being in arrears stop me selling a Shirley house?

Not at all. Owners in arrears sell houses every day. The mortgage, the arrears and the fees are all cleared out of the closing proceeds, which is exactly why the payoff figure decides everything.

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